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Thursday 21 July 2011

Today's show 21/07/11

I'm still unable to follow @theJeremyVine on Twitter, so I can only assume that you have blocked me from doing so. I suspose this is only fair as it is the equivalent of my radio's Off switch and which I have used oh, so often to end your broadcasts in to my home. I also suppose that "Tell us what you think" really does only apply to those people who like your programme, and the rest of us have to "put up or shut up". Public service broadcasting at its best, eh?

I see you have a Murdoch-free programme today. Your faux concern yesterday that other stories (euro, famine and Libya) were being lost in the flood of Murdoch/hacking/Met Police/Cameron stories raised my curiousity and a quick search of the BBC News web pages for July 20th revealed 30 stories for "hacking", 12 for "euro", 10 for "famine" and 5 for "Libya". So, just remind me again, who is at fault for the alleged over-coverage of Murdoch et al. Remember too that we, the listeners, do not get a say (not even on Twitter apparently) of what YOU decide to brainwash us with each day. As they say on one of my favourite web sites (
http://biased-bbc.blogspot.com/):

Bias - it is as easy as B - B - C.

So, let's look at today's white elephants in the room, and so eloquently tweeted this morning before 9am as Coppers. Grief. Larry. Undeserving...

1) GRIEF - Lucy Harris was jailed for stealing £39,000. Her mother (who she also stole from) says she should be shown clemency because she was grieving for the death of her father. Is grief an excuse? Find out more in this Telegraph article : According to the Telegraph, Ms Harris seems to be going through the correct legal procedure and I have no doubt that Judge Mettyear will come to his own conclusions in due course. What puzzles me is: Why do you think that this is of interest to me? And you have ex-MP Lembit Opik (star of BBC's Pointless Celebrities) on to tell us why he accidentally claimed more expenses than he should have done due to grief. Well, that's one explanation I suppose. I think he is going to get his own blog label today as he is becoming a new Talking Head for your show. Can I remind you that he is an ex-MP? I wonder why that might be....? Next...

2) LARRY GOULD - A successful entrepreneur who's made millions tells us anyone can be a businessman: even the long-term unemployed and public sector workers : I'm puzzled why you have chosen to single out public sector workers. There is almost a suggestion that you consider them to be inferior to private sector workers. Hardly fair, in my opinion. I already run my own one-man business, so this is of no interest to me today as I am busy working. Next...

3) THE DESERVING AND UNDESERVING POOR - Is it possible to say there is a distinction between the deserving poor, and the undeserving poor? If you're poor and feckless, should you have your satellite dish taken away? : Patronising the poor ... are you proud of what you do? Did you consider linking this with the previous item? Perhaps Larry Gould could tell some of the poor (both deserving and undeserving) how to start their own business. Or perhaps not. Next...

4) POLICE - Have you been horrified that some of the police who bungled the phone hacking inquiry were also responsible for anti-terrorism? Are there too many stupid policemen? Should you need a degree to be a copper? : Am I horrified? No. Are there too many stupid policemen? I have no idea, but YouTube features many films of dubious police behaviour. Should they need a degree? What would happen to all of those that don't have a degree, and how many would be left? Is this going to change anything? No.

Today's show in four words then:
Illegal. Deluded. Patronising. Irrelevant.

4 comments:

Anonymous said...

I listened to the show today and completely disagree with your assessment, though it was really more just a bitter rant, to be fair. Perhaps if someone were to critique your blog in a similar way you've critiqued the show, you'd understand how shallow and irrelevant your "analysis" really is. So allow me:

1. According to the Telegraph, Ms Harris seems to be going through the correct legal procedure and I have no doubt that Judge Mettyear will come to his own conclusions in due course. What puzzles me is: Why do you think that this is of interest to me? And you have ex-MP Lembit Opik (star of BBC's Pointless Celebrities) on to tell us why he accidentally claimed more expenses than he should have done due to grief. Well, that's one explanation I suppose. I think he is going to get his own blog label today as he is becoming a new Talking Head for your show. Can I remind you that he is an ex-MP? I wonder why that might be....? Next...

You simply re-state what's already been said on the show without any observations of your own. Your criticisms are developed by sardonically stating facts, which is in fact, not a criticism as much as a plagiarism.

2. I'm puzzled why you have chosen to single out public sector workers. There is almost a suggestion that you consider them to be inferior to private sector workers. Hardly fair, in my opinion. I already run my own one-man business, so this is of no interest to me today as I am busy working. Next...

Did you even LISTEN to the show or were you busy congratulating yourself on your ability to make sweeping assumptions without using your cognitive abilities (if they exist). Had you been listening, you would have heard Larry state how UNDERVALUED public workers are. I've included a definition of the word here in the event you need to fact check. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/inferior

3. Patronising the poor ... are you proud of what you do? Did you consider linking this with the previous item? Perhaps Larry Gould could tell some of the poor (both deserving and undeserving) how to start their own business. Or perhaps not. Next...

Now we KNOW you didn't listen, because Larry DID tell some ideas of how the poor can start their own businesses...Like he did, when he was poor.

I would go on, but I don't have my own one-man business like you so I have to help my team succeed. You'd be wise to do the same...NEXT!

Radio2LunchtimeLoather said...

Thank you. I am a firm believer in free speech and so I have no hesitation in publishing your comments here.

In answer to your question: No, I did not listen. Shallow maybe, but I want entertainment (i.e. music) while I work. What I do not need is feelings of frustration and rage at the misinformation, nonsense and bias being force fed to me by Mr Vine.

While I accept that there may be a place for a programme such as Mr Vine's I consider that lunchtime on Radio 2 is not the place for it. While he continues in this role I will continue to criticise his programme.

I started listening to Radio 2 all day in the summer of 2003, by which time Mr Vine was already established in this role. I listened every day for about 4 months, and then gave up. Not once, repeat, not once since then I have ever felt the need to listen to his programme in that it might improve my life. However, I have listened to odd bits (and I mention this on my blog) not so much to listen to the broadcast but more to listen to the broadcaster and how he handles a particular topic.

I hope you respect my opinion as much as I respect yours, and again I thank you for your comments.

I'd like to draw your attention to the link at the top of each page which says "Click here for more information about why I do this".

Stonyground said...

I heard the trailer on the Ken Bruce show where it was revealed that Larry Gould was in the business of translation. JV then said that these successful entrepreneurs always seem to be in a business that I don't understand.

He actually does not understand that people from different parts of the world speak different languages and as a result can't understand each other. This guy presumably matches up people who speak more than one language with such people to facilitate communication. How difficult is that to understand?

@Anonymous
Most of us who dislike the JV show started out listening to it but ended up tuning out at twelve in total exasperation. The consistently moronic subject matter is just one of the reasons.

Andy Elms said...

@Anonymous, if that is your real name

Yes, the blog author has not listened to the show, he is critiquing the summaries of the four subjects to be discussed (as stated on the show website, generally about 11:55am) using his previous experience of listening.

I think you missed the clear statement at the top of this blog "On most days I send Jeremy an email explaining why his show is irrelevant to me and why I will not be listening"